so this is morning in heathrow, middle of the night in san francisco, and he's yelling at someone there, because he hasn't organized his car and he had to wait for five minutes. and then he tells me this story about how entitlement can make you not an ideal person. that kind of says it all, right? >> the political behavior is another thing and there's no doubt in either of your minds, is there, that they tilt the rules in their favor through their influence and power over the politicians? >> no. absolutely. >> i mean our own government relaxed the regulations, upended the rules, leveled the laws, to make way for them. >> they have the power and influence over the government to -- and they've been continually deregulating the atmosphere to legalize whatever it is that they want to do. whether it's mergers of insurance companies, investment banks and commercial banks. derivatives, the commodities futures modernization act of 2000. they lobbied to create a completely deregulated atmosphere with that and we saw what happened in 2008 with the collapse of apps like aig. they've been incredibl